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Post by sWamp-Ass on Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:28 am

Now, the cries begin to ban guns. If it was that easy, why not just ban psychopaths. Isn't it already illegal to take a gun into a school or even near one? Isn't it already illegal to kill innocent children? The thing is, sickos don't follow laws and seldom take the time to study them. There are all sorts of ways to do sick things like in 1927 when a Michigan school was BOMBED and 45 innocent children were killed or even TODAY when a sicko in China stabbed 22 children in an elementary school. Only law abiding citizens obey the laws. The cretins don't and will never. Stop turning innocents into helpless defenseless victims with pointless laws.

Why don't we ban murdering, molestation, theft, muggings, killing wifes or husbands, prostitution, drugs and even the devil himself... oh wait, we've already done that (except for the devil) and all these things are still amongst us???? I wonder why?


We cannot ban the crimes i've just mentioned? YES WE ALREADY HAVE! And, it just doesn't work. We've even banned guns in places like Washington D.C. and it now has one of the highest murder rates in the USA. Laws don't work and never really have. Funny thing about laws, the criminals and psychos just don't seem to abide by them. They only work for those who don't do those things anyway.

Raise your kids. Raise your kids right. Stop enabling those who don't. Stop taking away the freedom of those who've done nothing to threaten anyone. When you don't have the freedom to defend your life or liberty, you are nothing more than a slave. When this condition is permanent, it's called a police state where there are just two classes; you have the guards and the prisoners. Funny, but I don't wish to be a prisoner in your prison utopia.

I obey the laws. I raise my kids right. I don't want to be punished for crimes I've never committed. I want to live free and not be enslaved by those who choose subjugate their free will for the security of a gulag nation. "If you want security, go to prison." I think Eisenhower said that. You will never be able to create a risk free world and your an eternal attempt to l create one will create nothing but one big nightmare.


Banning guns is not the answer. This cretin killed his mother, then stole her guns, then committed his atrocities. It seems that he broke MANY laws already. Justice is simply removing injustice, not punishing OTHER INNOCENT people for the acts of one sicko. You want to ban guns then what you really want is a GULAG STATE, where the INNOCENT people become the inmates. YOUR UTOPIA IS EVERYONE ELSES PRISON. Why would anyone want to help them build their own jail cell is just as insane as what happened in Newtown.

P.S. For those who believe these things don't happen in the Socialist Haven of Europe, think again...

In fact, the socialist utopia Europe has MORE MASS KILLINGS THAN THE USSA!

""In the USSA the yearly average of people killed in mass killing is 10.6, whereas in Europe it is 12.5. All the multiple-victim public shootings in Western Europe have occurred in places where civilians are not permitted to carry guns. The same is true in the United States: All the public shootings in which more than three people have been killed have occurred in places where civilians may not legally bring guns. "

List of European mass killings/evidence cited HERE:

http://www.thecrimsonpirate.com/blog/?p=1871

There are no mass shootings on Mars too, you know why? There are no SICK PEOPLE there THAT'S WHY.

Don't forget that....

The worst mass killings were in countries like U.S.S.R, China, and Nazi Germany by mad COLLECTIVIST sickos like Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.

How convenient it is to forget that all these psychopaths disarmed the citizenry and wiped out tens of millions of innocent people who could not defend themselves... These cretins were supported by a majority percentage of collectivist sheople useful idiots too. They all had "good intentions."

Did we forget this? How do we all forget the greatest atrocities of the last century? How is it that we excuse this as "something else" when THE SAME gun control is exactly what many of us are advocating, the disarming of innocent people in order to render them defenseless.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NEXT STEP IS? WHAT DO YOU THINK EVENTUALLY HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE ARE RENDERED COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS???


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Re: The Skinny On Gun Control

Post by sWamp-Ass on Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:35 pm

As evidence he includes a list of European mass killings:
Zug, Switzerland, Sept. 27, 2001: A man whose lawsuits had been denied murdered 14 members of a cantonal parliament.
Tours, France, Oct. 29, 2001: Four people were killed and ten wounded when a French railway worker started shooting at a busy intersection.
Nanterre, France, March 27, 2002: A man killed eight city-council members after a council meeting.
Erfurt, Germany, April 26, 2002: A former student killed 18 at a secondary school.
Freising, Germany, Feb. 19, 2002: Three people killed and one wounded.
Turin, Italy, Oct. 15, 2002: Seven people killed on a hillside overlooking the city.
Madrid, Spain, Oct. 1, 2006: A man killed two employees and wounded another at a company that had fired him.
Emsdetten, Germany, Nov. 20, 2006: A former student murdered eleven people at a high school.
Tuusula, Finland, Nov. 7, 2007: Seven students and the principal killed at a high school.
Naples, Italy, Sept. 18, 2008: Seven dead and two seriously wounded in a public meeting hall. (This incident is not included in the totals given below because it may have involved the Mafia.)
Kauhajoki, Finland, Sept. 23, 2008: Ten people shot to death at a college.
Winnenden, Germany, March 11, 2009: A 17-year-old former student killed 15 people, including nine students and three teachers.
Lyon, France, March 19, 2009: Ten people injured when a man opened fire on a nursery school.
Athens, Greece, April 10, 2009: Three people killed and two injured by a student at a vocational college.
Rotterdam, Netherlands, April 11, 2009: Three people killed and one injured at a crowded café.
Vienna, Austria, May 24, 2009: One dead and 15 wounded in an attack on a Sikh temple.
Espoo, Finland, Dec. 31, 2009: Four people shot to death at a mall.
Cumbria, England, June 2, 2010: Twelve killed by a British taxi driver.
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Re: The Skinny On Gun Control

Post by sWamp-Ass on Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:36 pm

Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive

I've just learned that Washington, D.C.'s petition for a rehearing of the Parker case in the USSA Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit was denied today. This is good news. Readers will recall in this case that the D.C. Circuit overturned the decades-long ban on gun ownership in the nation's capitol on Second Amendment grounds.

However, as my colleague Peter Ferrara explained in his National Review Online article following the initial decision in March, it looks very likely that the United States Supreme Court will take the case on appeal. When it does so - beyond seriously considering the clear original intent of the Second Amendment to protect an individual's right to armed self-defense - the justices of the USSA Supreme Court would be wise to take into account the findings of a recent study out of Harvard.

The study, which just appeared in Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence." Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is "no." And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases.

The findings of two criminologists - Prof. Don Kates and Prof. Gary Mauser - in their exhaustive study of American and European gun laws and violence rates, are telling:

Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not. The study found that the nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population).

For example, Norway has the highest rate of gun ownership in Western Europe, yet possesses the lowest murder rate. In contrast, Holland's murder rate is nearly the worst, despite having the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe. Sweden and Denmark are two more examples of nations with high murder rates but few guns. As the study's authors write in the report:
If the mantra "more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death" were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates. (p. 661)

Finally, and as if to prove the bumper sticker correct - that "gun don't kill people, people do" - the study also shows that Russia's murder rate is four times higher than the USSA and more than 20 times higher than Norway. This, in a country that practically eradicated private gun ownership over the course of decades of totalitarian rule and police state methods of suppression. Needless to say, very few Russian murders involve guns.

The important thing to keep in mind is not the rate of deaths by gun - a statistic that anti-gun advocates are quick to recite - but the overall murder rate, regardless of means. The criminologists explain:
[P]er capita murder overall is only half as frequent in the United States as in several other nations where gun murder is rarer, but murder by strangling, stabbing, or beating is much more frequent. (p. 663 - emphases in original)

It is important to note here that Profs. Kates and Mauser are not pro-gun zealots. In fact, they go out of their way to stress that their study neither proves that gun control causes higher murder rates nor that increased gun ownership necessarily leads to lower murder rates. (Though, in my view, Prof. John Lott's More Guns, Less Crime does indeed prove the latter.) But what is clear, and what they do say, is that gun control is ineffectual at preventing murder, and apparently counterproductive.

Not only is the D.C. gun ban ill-conceived on constitutional grounds, it fails to live up to its purpose. If the astronomical murder rate in the nation's capitol, in comparison to cities where gun ownership is permitted, didn't already make that fact clear, this study out of Harvard should.
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Post by sWamp-Ass on Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:53 pm

And of course we can just trust the police!
Former Florida policeman executed for 1986 killing spree


TALLAHASSEE, Florida (Reuters) - Florida executed a former police officer on Tuesday for a 1986 killing spree in which he murdered nine people whom he described in court as "parasites" and "leeches" and had "no right to live," a spokeswoman for Governor Rick Scott said.

Manuel Pardo, 56, was executed by lethal injection at Florida State Prison in Starke and was pronounced dead at 7:47 p.m., governor's spokeswoman Jackie Schutz said.

A former police officer in the Miami suburb of Sweetwater, Pardo testified that after killing his victims, he took photographs of them to "capture their spirits" and burned the pictures in a special ashtray, according to court records.

When police arrested Pardo for the killings, they found a collection of Nazi memorabilia in his apartment.

Pardo's attorneys painted a picture of a military veteran and former Florida Highway Patrol trooper who turned to drug dealing after being fired from the Sweetwater Police Department in 1985. They claimed Pardo was insane.

During his 1988 sentencing, Pardo claimed he was "a soldier" in the battle against illegal drugs and was not out for financial gain. He urged the court to sentence him to death.

The jury found him guilty of all nine counts and recommended he be executed. The judge agreed but after a string of appeals, it was not until October that Scott signed a death warrant.

Ann Howard, the spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections, said Pardo's execution went smoothly after final appeals were denied late on Tuesday afternoon.

His last meal consisted of roasted pork, red beans and rice, plantains, avocado and tomatoes with olive oil. For dessert, he had pumpkin pie, egg nog and Cuban coffee.

Pardo's execution was the 43rd carried out in the United States in 2012, according to the Death Penalty Information Center.
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